What the hell??? (details of the story below my comments)
I was a bit surprised when i read this, but then i thought "meh..." we should be pretty used to this since almost everyone i know believes in this "stuff" and thinks it's actually true.
the summary of the whole thing:
A woman in qurayat was sentenced to death by decapitation for SORCERY!!
This is typical, if you read the "witness" testimonies, you'd really find out that it is typical ARAB behavior. In other cultures, sorcery would turn a beautiful women into a lamb, or a prince into a frog, or some kind of crap like that. in our culture, we believe that every social problem that WE cause is a direct result of sorcery.
couple who hate each other --> sorcery
impotence --> sorcery
Chronic illness --> sorcery
car accident --> sorcery
failed at school --> sorcery
the evil eye is usually also associated with sorcery in most cases.
As i might have said before (don't remember if i did), i have witnessed this "sorcery"... and when i did, i was holding back the biggest laugh of my life. because anyone who had an ounce of intelligence would know that this is childish and retarded. if you truly believed that sorcery was real and you didn't have a doubt in your mind about it, you'd believe it no matter what.
This bullshit has now reached epic proportions. In the year 2008, they sentence a woman to death for being a sorcerer... we are moving backwards.
The lesson learned here is that if you hate someone really bad and you want him to die, plant some rotten eggs under his couch, slip some torn pages of the quran in his bathroom, and throw around some spices and shit in his living room... then call the religious police and say "HE'S A SORCERER!! HE MADE MY LEFT TESTICLE A LITTLE BIGGER THAN MY RIGHT, AND HE CAUSE THIS HUGE PURPLE MARK UNDER MY WIFE'S EYE... what... what blood on my knuckles?? ohhh... that... HE CAUSED IT!!! IT'S MAGIC!!!"... and they will take care of him for you.
Saudi Arabia: Muslim Courts Sentence ‘Witch’ to Death
Adrian Morgan
News from Human Rights Watch, BBC, The Register, All Headline News, Belfast Telegraph, International Herald Tribune, Scotsman, Agence France-Presse and Associated Press.
Saudi Arabia is busy exporting its narrow and backward version of Islam – Wahhabism – to mosques and Islamic seminaries around the world. Yet Saudi Arabia is a country where women are second class citizens, and people can be executed for witchcraft. On Friday November 2, 2007, an Egyptian pharmacist was decapitated with a sword in Riyadh after being found "guilty" of sorcery. Mustapha Ibrahim worked in Arar, a city in the north of Saudi Arabia, and was said to have tried to separate a married couple.
Ibrahim had been accused by another foreign resident of using magic to separate him from his wife. The Saudi Press Agency (SPA) then reported that "evidence" was retrieved from Mustapha Ibrahim's home. This included black magic books, a candle emblazoned with the words "to summon devils" and "foul-smelling herbs." SPA stated that Ibrahim "confessed to adultery with a woman and desecrating the Koran by placing it in the bathroom."
Mustapha Ibrahim's case was reported in April 2007, when mosque-worshippers accused him of placing copies of the Koran in washrooms, but sorcery had not then been mentioned by the Saudi media.
Though it is too late to save Mustapha Ibrahim, an illiterate woman of (apparent) Jordanian origins who is currently incarcerated in Quraiyat Prison is facing death for being a "witch." Fawza Falih was arrested in Quraiyat on May 4, 2005 by the notorious muttawa or mutaween, the religious police from the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (CPVPV).
These men beat her so badly during her interrogation that at one stage she had to be hospitalized. She was held by the religious police at a detention center for 35 days. This, according to Human Rights Watch, violated a 1981 royal decree which forbade the CPVPV from interrogating and detaining suspects in their centers. There are 486 CPVPV centers across the kingdom, with 10,000 religious police.
Fawza Falih was convicted in April 2006 in Quraiyat in the north of Saudi Arabia of witchcraft, even though no such official crime is said to exist in Saudi law. She was convicted by Islamic clerics acting as judges, and "testimony" was provided by "witnesses." One man claimed that he was rendered impotent by Fawzah, who had cast a spell upon him. A divorced woman said that Fawzah had cast a spell and predicted that her ex-husband would come back. This witness said the man returned to her in the month that had been predicted by the woman. She was officially convicted of "witchcraft, recourse to jinn (supernatural beings), and slaughter" of animals.
A court verdict from October 10, 2006 quoted from her "confession." It read: “I take 1,500 Riyal ($400) for each act of which I send half to the magician Abu Tal'a according to the agreement, for Abu Tal'a said to me, 'If you do not bring the money, by God, you will become possessed by jinn like dogs.' " Abu Tal'a was the man who was said to have tutored her in the skills of witchcraft.
Later, Fawzah retracted her "confession" in court, claiming that it had been extracted by force. She also claimed that as she was illiterate, she had been unaware of the contents of the confession document, which she had been made to sign with her fingerprint. The contents of the confession were never, she claims, read out to her.
An appeals court ruled that as she had retracted her confession, she could not be sentenced to death "for 'witchcraft' as a crime against God." Despite this, judges in a lower court then reversed that decision, sentencing her to death on a "discretionary" basis. This was done to better the "public interest" and to "protect the creed, souls and property of this country."
She has now exhausted all legal rights of appeal.
Human Rights Watch has issued a letter to King Abdullah bin Abd al-'Aziz Al Saud, as only he now has the power to reverse the death sentence upon the woman.
The letter states that Fawzah Falih was prevented from having her son attend her court case, even though he was named as her official legal representative. After her arrest, her family had also hired a lawyer called Abdullah al-Suhaimi. The head of the CPVPV's interrogation committee refused to let this lawyer have access to her.
This is the "justice" of Saudi Arabia, and as it was enacted by Wahhabi clerics, it also displays the barbarism and lack of human rights within Wahhabi Islam. In March 2007, Sheikh Ibrahim Al-Ghaith, president of the CPVPV said: "he commission plays a large role in capturing people who practice sorcery or delusions since these are vices which affect the faith of Muslims and cause harm to both nationals and expatriates. The commission has assigned centers in every city and town to be on the lookout for these men. As for their fate, they are arrested and then transferred to concerned authorities. The commission also has a role in breaking magic spells, which are found in the sea. We cooperate with divers in this aspect. After the spells are found, they are then broken using recitations of the Holy Qur'an. We do not use magic to break magic spells, as this is against the teachings of Islam as mentioned by the Supreme Ulema. But we use the Qur'an as did the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)."
Unaware of any irony, in October 2007 Saudi Arabia's "Human Rights Commission" announced that it would be lecturing Europe on its ill-treatment of Muslims and its "Islamophobia."
It seems never to have crossed the minds of these people that incidents such as this case against Fawzah Falih are issues that genuinely create Islamophobia.

8 Comments:
if you miss the goal... evil eye!
if you serve the volley ball outside the court.. evil eye!
if you have an accident.. evil eye!
if somebody parks in your spot... evil eye!
i hear about this damn evil eye everyday! everything is blamed on the evil eye... people joke about it but secretly they believe it!
and it's the first explanation everyone has...
today at the gym, i was doing chest, shoulders, and triceps... my shoulder has been nagging me for a month now, and it really hurts... decline benched 355 lbs for 6 reps, then military pressed 2 plates and a quarter on the smith, then i close grip benched the same weight on the smith and my eyes were in tears from the shoulder pain (i'm retarded, i should stop training heavy)... trainer saw me and said "what's wrong?" i told him that my shoulder hurts like a mother fucker... IMMEDIATELY he said "3ain!! (evil eye)... people here are merciless... anybody who looks half decent won't find mercy from these guys"... so i said "well, couldn't it be around 6 years of extremely heavy training with no rest... an injury is bound to happen"... i swear, he paused for about 5 seconds... then said "laaaa... 3ain 3ain (no, it's the evil eye)"
first of all,,, 3ain and se7er (evil eye and witchcraft) are real and its been mentioned in the holy Qur'an and by the prophet peace be upon him. And the prophet himself was affected by sorcery. Now, when people keep blaming natural consequences or their problems on evil eyes and stuff, thats another thing. the only thing that is not real is people claiming their possessed and some guys try to reverse that... that has no proof even in religion. although possession was mentioned in Qur'an but no one really know whats the signs or symptoms of such thing.
now, that article is written by someone with ill intentions. Whats the circumstances behind those stories, God only knows. but witchcraft is real and people practicing it are there in Saudi and they make hell alot of money. and the witchcraft punishment in Islam is death.
Hai'a has been targeted recently by the media, and as in any authority in the world, there are people who abuse their powers (police, judges, traffic police) and that does not mean that the whole system is wrong and should be removed. the Hai'a have done and still doing a great job, but no body is puting the light on that part.
Anyway, if being a Saudi Muslim is being Wahabi...then count me in.
back to the subject, you're right Hamad, many blame their shortcomings on evil eye. and its really annoying. but its an easy explanation, why the hell would you trouble yourself in finding an answer of an easy explanation is there, The Evil Eye lool
Peace
tell ya fozan, once that oil runs out, nobody's gonna be dealing with your bullshit. and when you get the finger up the ass at the airport, don't get surprised as if you did not see that one coming.
if there is a god, he never gave you the authority to kill anyone. if he did, then drop me dead, 'cos i will not be a slave to fear.
Fozan,
i was expecting that answer :) ...
If "magic" was real, wouldn't we be seeing it in the news alot and shit like that? why is it just in 3rd world countries? why does the rest of the world laugh at us when we say this? i'm not talking about what's written in the quran... with all due respect, it MIGHT have meant something else. it might have been metaphoric... do you remember the incident of the quran "saying" that there was no way that man could reach the moon, and then he did... and a very respectible shaikh who was partially blind said that it was a lie, and mankind can't go to the moon because the quran said so... and then we were laughed at... and we quickly "raggi3ed" it (patched it). then we said "no no... the meaning was not literal... it was metaphorical"...
and about the spell that was put on the prophet... i only heard stories, and never read a hadeeth about it. and even if there was a hadeeth, how do you know it was true and not some scam a "sorceror" came up with to sell his magic spells... i've read many hadeeth that contradict each other... i don't say that this one is right and this is wrong... but i have my doubts in some of them becuase they seem to have a purpose of serving a certain individual or business. I'm sorry, this might offend a lot of people, but is it my fault that my brain sometimes spins?
If anyone wants me to believe, bring me a magician, and i'll tell him that i want him to do this and this and this... since he has the "aid of spirits and demons", he should be able to do some wild shit. but when you tell me that a women is a sorceror, and she summons demons and what not, and she can't fucking read or write... give me a goddamn break.
and the moral or religious police is getting shit because they cause shit. fozan, let's not kid ourselves... i've seen what they do countless times... they act on personal point of view and not religion or moral. they might have stopped some alcohol "factories", and some brothels... but you have to wonder how... they get calls from people who were either ripped off, or didn't get a cut of the action. that's a fact my friend. and once they confiscate "2000" bottles of black label whiskey, they destroy 100 of them... where does the rest of the 1900 go? they give it to the police, and the police "handle" it... and they know what the police do with it. it's not for testing either. why don't they destroy all of it? ... anyway, i'm sliding way outta my point here... but point is, the more power they get, the more they abuse it, the more society rebels, the more problems we have. we have the same problems everyone else in the world has, only difference is that we say we don't. religious police does not help. that's how i see it.
Andy,
I'm assuming that wasn't a personal attack directed towards fozan but directed towards saudi. so i won't delete it. but if you think we're gonna run outta oil... man... seriously... we're good for another 150-200 years. and if we run out of oil, the world is basically screwed. cuz your only alternative right now is nuclear energy... and we've seen how "jumpy" everyone is on that subject if anyone other than the states or israel has it... ;)
we aren't afraid of oil running out or finding other energy sources (the world is designed around oil being the main energy source... you'd have to change the whole world to change the energy source)... we're deathly afraid of other things...
Hamad...I am not gonna say I agree or disagree I just want to know how you would explain this part of the Quran...not tryin to say see you are wrogn but I really think what you say is interesting and all what you said seriously go through my mind as well...I just have things that make me stopp...why would God say this:
قل أعوذ برب الفلق * من شر ما خلق * و من شر غاسق إذا وقب * "و شر النفاثات في العقد" * "و من شر حاسدٍ إذا حسد"
I just wonder why would God mention such a thing if it was not real...honestly and as all of you guys said, I hate it when people blame it always on the evil eye...I have cuzons who are like that and it pisses me off...damn bro!!! you think you are some kind of an invincible super hero that you wont simplly get hurt!!
Another thing about the Quran didnt say we could not reach the moon...no it didnt!!! its a guy who said so and if you read the part where they claimed it says so you will find that it means nothing like it...then again who said that!!! with all do respect to the guy but he is no near science at all...I could send you a video where this Shiek answers a question in a way you will pop your eyes out saying what in the name of God is he saying...who gave you the right to speak in the name of science...the problem is that some of our Shieks get into the real deal and thing that they know everything about everything when they master the Quran and A7adeeth...they seriously know nothing about the other science...at least the old ones...the new ones seem to be more educated and thats normal cuz the old ones reflect old us.
enough said...go and believe whatever you want to believe people...God left you enough clues to know the truth...other than that it wont be fair.
i'm sorry if i confused anyone... but when i said (the quran "saying") i put "saying" in quotation marks because it did not say that, and the sheikh who was wrong said that it did... the literal transelation does not say that...
anyway, i wish everyone could believe whatever they wanted to believe and god would judge them in the end... but sadly, that's not how it is. if you're in saudi, and you don't believe what "we" believe, you either get out, recieve punishment, or die. to put it in basic terms.
"but sadly, that's not how it is. if you're in saudi, and you don't believe what "we" believe, you either get out, recieve punishment, or die. to put it in basic terms"
And it just makes you mad how people try to get into other people's business...I'm not gonna lie I was never ever like that but I will tell you that I was affected a little by this kind of behavior when I was younger and foolish...I'm seriously starting to hate the people of this country...I mean the very typical ones who refuse to use their brains.
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