Note: This post is mostly about religion. So, if you are offended by thought provoking questions that aren’t frequently asked about religion, please don’t read this. The purpose of this post is for me to find answers to my questions, and not to offend anyone’s religion or religious beliefs.
First of all, I’m not the best candidate to start this discussion. Yes, I am a muslim, but I don’t pray as much as I should, and I don’t have enough knowledge to discuss complex issues about religion. I sometimes try to discuss some issues that get me thinking. Whenever I start these “taboo” discussions, I’m bombarded by replies like “this is haram, you shouldn’t talk about this.” Or “these questions were never meant to be asked, so don’t ask them.” Or my personal favorite “astaghfur allah!!! This is kufur!!” … when in fact, I haven’t read anything (up till this date) that says it’s a sin to talk about this. Let’s start, shall we?
Evolution
As Robin Williams said in his stand up comedy act describing a conversation between someone and a religious Christian: “do you think that when God said ‘let there be light’ he was referring to the big bang?”… “No… God just went ‘click’ (as in flicking a light switch)”… It’s funny, but at the same time sad. All what muslims know about evolution is that Darwin said that we are monkeys! They left out everything else and said that we are monkeys… very mature. Evolution is a reality… if you want proof, get some bacteria and watch them evolve week after week. With us humans, it’s a bit slower. My question is that, if Adam and Eve were sent down from heaven… does that necessarily mean that there wasn’t some form of primate evolving into man and the first evolved primates were actually Adam and Eve?
I once asked one of my close friends this question, and he got FURIOUS!! The first sentence he said after I asked that question was “ASTAGHFUR ALLAH AL ATHEEM!!!!” eh… I believe in evolution because I can see it in front of my eyes.
Culture and fate
We all know that the 3 “heavenly” religions are Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. To my knowledge, all of the prophets that sent the message of those religions live in the same environment (harsh, desert, full of poverty)… why weren’t those religions scattered in different regions? Why were they given to the “weak” and outnumbered? And if God knew that jews were gonna forge the Torah, and Christians were gonna forge the bible, but muslims can never forge the quran, then why didn’t God send down Islam and the Quran before any other religion and just give people a CLEAR sign that this is the only religion and you should follow it. Most people who aren’t afraid to answer say that God wanted to test man kind, and man kind failed twice. God then sent down the religion of Islam and showed that it is the true religion and it can’t be forged. Ok, it might be clear to MUSLIMS that ISLAM is the right religion, but it’s just because we were born muslims. Other people see that it doesn’t make sense. Also, wouldn’t changing the religion or faith of people 3 times cause a lot of confusion and misguidance? I’m telling you we’re human… that’s how it is with us… we start doubting. Plus, right now, we have no clear sign from God that Islam is the true religion. I’m just stating facts here… We can believe stories in history and all the miracles that HAPPENED long ago… stories (history) is nothing but that… each side of that history has 4-20 different stories and they don’t coincide. WHY ALL THE CONFUSION???!!!! If God knows what’s going to happen anyway, why mislead some people and lead others? If Islam is the right religion, how can we show that to all the other people who are not muslim? Will they go to hell because we bomb their asses, cause terror, and give them a reason to think that we’re not God’s “chosen” people? Let me seriously ask you this, if you weren’t born a muslim… and you’re jewish or Christian or Buddhist or whatever… would you convert to islam with the shit going on today? The obvious answer is “no”. will you go to hell for that?
Islam, if it’s so clear…
Why do we have a lot of branches that believe in totally different things? Sheit, Hanbali, Shafi’i, Ismaili, Wahabi… etc. and almost everyone of those branches has transcripts to “prove” that the other branch is “wrong and they are considered infidels”.
We Sunni’s like to believe that others are that way because they hate us and they are “stubborn”. Also, we believe that Christians and Jews know that Islam is right but they are too “stubborn” to admit it. I truly don’t believe that is the case, and it’s silly to generalize that statement. We also believe that every other branch of Islam, or other religion at that matter, has a secret agenda to destroy Islam. To me, that’s just ridiculous. The world is too busy to focus on “us”. It’s a matter of power and money… that’s it. Simple. Most people choose to start a cult (religious or political or whatever) and lead them, for their own benefit(s). That’s why I think Islam got cut up into many different pieces. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Is this the case?
Hadeeth and credibility
My father was once helping my little brother (fahad) study for his “hadeeth” exam. When something caught his eye and we had a discussion about it. The hadeeth was saheeh (correct) according to the school book. The rawi (the man who heard the prophet say it) was Abdullah ibn mas’ood (I’m not 100% sure, but this is the best of my recollection). In the rawi information section, it mentioned that he was a credible source, and that the prophet (peace be upon him) died when abdullah was only 13 years old. My question is, how is someone who is less than 13 years old be a credible source of a hadeeth? And how come some sahaba (the prophets first followers) that are over 20 years old not considered a credible source because someone else said that they were “forgetful”?
Grave torture
My father was once in a discussion (my father has a hobby of listening to or reading the other side(s) of the story… be it political, religious, or just about an argument that happened at work) and one of his friends asked a religious person “now, if God only Judges us by what we do while we live on the day of judgement…. How come some of the sinners have to suffer in the grave before the day of judgement. Does that mean they are judged before everyone else?”… his friend just ended the discussion in the usual way anyone around here would… but now, I’m asking the same question… aren’t we all supposed to be judged in the day of judgement, and not in the grave?
Finally, placing the bets!
Ok, I’m serious when I say this to you… I want to see how you would truthfully bet on which is the most probable religion to be right according to today’s circumstances. From what I see today, I’d really think that God was helping the Jews out… I’m being truthful here and I’m not saying which religion is right or wrong… just who you’d bet on… Money, power, and total control over the media… JEWS!!!! Very smart people… they know how to manipulate everything. I’d bet on the Jews… you?
Please know that I do not want to offend anyone by this post. I just want answers. Lately I have been thinking deeply about things like this (surprisingly, when I told this exact sentence to one of my relatives, he told me that this kind of thinking would take you out of Islam… I’m not saying that this guy represents Islam, but I’m saying that there are retarded people out there who don’t want you to think for yourselves). All of this was brought up by a little sentence I found in a bodybuilding forum member’s signature of:
Question your beliefs, believe in your question.
Stay safe

7 Comments:
This will be fun ;)
Nice post...I'm sure I'm not gonna be the best to give you some answers or close answers but what the heck I'll try...its a discussion:
This is to answer your question: why didnt God send Islam from the start...(NOTE) this is my explaination to that question:
It is in human nature to divert from the right path and as God said: ((إنا عرضنا الأمانة على السموات والأرض والجبال فأبين أن يحملنها وأشفقن منها وحملها الإنسان إنه كان ظلوما جهولا ))
God sent those religions to give people different chances...they failed once and twice and dont think that they didnt fail the third time...they actually did, look at Muslims these days!!! they failed but this time its different because God himself garanteed for the religion not to be forged...this way even if people diverted a bit from the right path they would still have the religion being kept as it was sent and this way the religion of the people this time was better a little than before because God had something with it...also remember with all this that the judgment day will happen when there will be no human with a slight faith in his or her heart!!! So people are still failling...this is why God kept saying that no one will enter Heaven by his or her worship but by God's murcy...and remember one more thing that Islam was a contenouation to the rest of the religions and not something that deleted them as the prophet said: (إنما بعثت لإتمم مكارم الأخلاق)...
you said we are human we start doubting...one of my friends once told me, nice way of thinking I guess, that it is normal to have doubts because you are believing in things that you didnt see and wont see until you die...
as for the: we dont have a clear sign that this is the religion from God, allow me to tell you that you are mistaken...The Qura'n is the merical and if you still doubt that then I really believe that you should start studying it deeply, not that I did...the simple thing is if you were really good in Arabic and started reading the Quran then you would pop your eyes from how super well it was written...dont get me wrong I suck in Arabic Grammer but once I listened to a guy who was explaining the strongness in one of the Ayaat and it was ublievable...you have a huge book full of mericals...the only good we did with is to find the Ayaat that fits what non-Muslim scientists found!!!
A small note about the "branches"...dont be mistake that Hanbali, Shafiee, and Hanefee arent the same...In Islam there are small things that were not stated by detail in Islam because they were not a big deal I guess...a small example is saying Besmellah Alrahman Alraheem during prayer out laod before you read a Soraa...those branches were named after religios guys and people made them groups and those guys did these small things differently one said the Bsmallah and one didnt, thats just an example...but there was no big deal and no one said that the other is worng as in his prayer would be affected or something like that...I personally read a book about these braches and there were statements from most of those religios people saying that we are not responsible for followers and we name nothing after ourselfs and if we mistake then we wish for God's forgivness and our way of taking religion shouldnt be taken as a way or path...this is not who it was exactly but as far as I could remember it...now when you go to a total different branches like Sheit or Ismaieele its a different story that takes a looooong time but mistake not that some Sheit are closer to being Sunie than to being Sheit but the naming and current political BS and many other stupid things made things the way they are...
As for the Hadeeth strongness...I really believe that it was delivered carefully...and you can search about that Sa7abee to make sure why his word was taken as a 13 years old kid...I would guess that was well known for not forgetting or being smart or anything like that but its really worth invistegating.
I would have to get back to you later for the last part.
very interesting topic. But we should also remember one thing that there are things that God didnt make them very clear because they werent in our business to know about...we can talk about this in detailes later.
you said we are human we start doubting...one of my friends once told me, nice way of thinking I guess, that it is normal to have doubts because you are believing in things that you didnt see and wont see until you die...
I wanted to add to this that my friend point is that there is nobody with certain believe, 100% sure, that the after life and whats gonna happen will hapen and thats how people differ, by their more or less doubts.
I dont agree with him 100% but I think he has a good point and he is right in a way.
thanks for the wonderful explanation, bandar... there are two things that you said that stick out to me:
1-"I personally read a book about these braches and there were statements from most of those religios people saying that we are not responsible for followers and we name nothing after ourselfs and if we mistake then we wish for God's forgivness and our way of taking religion shouldnt be taken as a way or path."
the "disclaimer" said here should be THE OFFICIAL DISCLAIMER OF EVERY RELIGION OUT THERE, in my personal opinion. Because nothing is for sure, and no one is to blame.
2- "this is why God kept saying that no one will enter Heaven by his or her worship but by God's murcy."
this should end all debate about "you are an infidel, you will spend an eternity in hell", and the "We will be the only people going to heaven" arguements as i see it. because, again, nothing is for certain and we'll never know until it's "too late" i guess.
Also, i know what you're saying about the quran being a miracle... the thing i'm wondering about is if you try to prove to someone who doesn't speak arabic (which is the majority of the world) or an arab that doesn't speak perfect fus'ha arabic (like myself... perfect is such a strong word... i don't even speak it, a little!!! almost flunked that crap in school)... that miracle won't show. You have to go in depth and spend a looooooooooooooooooooooooong time studying it to see it. and that arguement can easily be turned around. i don't want to step out of line here... but if you think about it for a while, you can turn it around.
another point is, and i know you agree with me that islam today isn't even close to being "right", but if God gave us the human instict of always trying to go on the wrong path, how can we be punished for not going against an extremely strong instinct, that God created in us, without any substantial evidence to go against it???
Bandar, i know you didn't major in religion (you stupid process engineer :P), so i know you don't have answers (proabably not many do) but i just want to start a discussion.... that will... basically prove nothing i guess
i'm just curious.
The language merical was just an example...there are many...my advice to you is this:
This a critical thing in everyones life so you should have answers...I suggest for you deep research if you have doubts...other wise you'll end up explaining this your own way and probably you will end up in the wrong direction even though your explainations make sence to you.
Dont know if you still read the comments of this section or not but what the heck:
"this should end all debate about "you are an infidel, you will spend an eternity in hell", and the "We will be the only people going to heaven" arguements as i see it. because, again, nothing is for certain and we'll never know until it's "too late" i guess."
I believe that as well, as I said it in the first place...remember the story about that guy who was going to be in heaven just because he showed some worm heart and petty for the thursty dog?? This is what I'm talking about...we should NOT say that all non-Muslims are going to heaven and we shouldnt say some of them might either!!! This is all God's responsiblities we have nothing to do or worry about because its not our business for God sake!!! Yes I do believe that God will let some people who are non-Muslim to enter heaven but for sure not of those who saw the truth!!! Think about it...it takes certain things to believe in God and follow the way he wanted us to follow to enter heaven...but what if somebody didnt get the chance to find it and all of this happened because of things that were out of his or her hands!!! Thats what I mean...this is for God do decide and not us to go pointing out you are in hell and you are in heaven...let us live our lives the way God wanted us to do it and let us thank him every day and night for us to be born Muslims.
I dont think there is enough way to thank God for such a bless to be born a Muslim...I just thank him for not having confusions or doubts about the human life and after life.
One last thing about the Hadeeth thing...I got a good answer for you:
Do you remember the types of Hadeeth we studied??
صحيح، حسن، غريب، ضعيف، موضوع
I'm not sure about the order but you get the point...well, each one has a criteria to meet for the hadeeth to be one of those. The Saheeh is the Hadeeth that must be taken from a certain number of Sahabah, meanining that there must be at least 20 Sahabees', for example only and if I'm not mistaken the number is higher, who said that Hadeeth the same way and those 20 also has a criteria to meet...for example, they all have to be known for being honest and never in their life said a lie and never they were known to forget and some other things.
So when that hadeeth said the Rawi was 13 years old then it doesnt mean that the hadeeth was taken only from him.
Hello,
Interesting views and questions! Im really glad I came across your blog. I dont have any answers for you, but you've definitely planted some questions in my mind. So thanks, I guess.
I have to say, I've read some of your other posts and my goodness, you are a breath of fresh air - and extremely funny. Really.
Hope to read more of your 'fresh' views. You've certainly got me entertained, as well as stirred up a few questions.
Look forward to reading more,
B!
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